Aspecto Cultural

Essa postagem é pra quem fala inglês... Desculpem, mas é a Globalização. Aí vai uma conversa por msn. Uma brasileira e um Árabe, falando de Religião. Divirtam-se!
koko diz:
what;s your religion luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
what is yours?
koko diz:
muslim
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't have exactly a religion, but I believe in God, and I think I believe in Karma
koko diz:
aha
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
How is this religion?
koko diz:
believe in Karma

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What do you believe?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And...
koko diz:
and the proht mohamed
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What did he say?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
propeht mohamed
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
*prophet
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
koko, u there?
koko diz:
wait just seconds
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
ok
koko diz:
luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Yes..
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
We were talking about religion
koko diz:
i give u a link taking about our prophet mohamed
koko diz:
http://mohammad.islamway.com/?lang=eng
koko diz:
that is
koko diz:
in english
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
okay.. I'll read
koko diz:
read then say to me what's opinion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
You call God allah?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think the same God has many names
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
what do u think?
koko diz:
yea W believe with taw7eed
koko diz:
allah is the only GOD
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What do you think Allah wants from the human kind?
koko diz:
PRAYING
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and what else?
koko diz:
ALLAH created all human to praying and beleive that is la elah ela ALLAH AND MOHAMED RASOUL allah
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I dont understand elah ela allah rasoul?
koko diz:
rasoul= prophet

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koko diz:
elaa with us
koko diz:
u r welcome
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thx
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koko diz:
luiza asked about prpophet mohamed
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ok luiza
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
but i can't speak untill u be with us
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if ur busy
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postpone tht to another time
koko diz:
i send that link to luiza
koko diz:
http://mohammad.islamway.com/?lang=eng
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coz i wanna ur attention
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I want to understand
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ok
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ur available now ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes
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ok
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want to know wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I want to know what Allah expects from me
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and you
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and all people
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ok luiza there is one god in all over the worl
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there is no one else
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think that too
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think people believe in the same God, but they call Him by different names
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noooooooo
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allah only the god
koko diz:
no ALLAH
koko diz:
NOT ANOTHER NAME
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Is Allah Good?
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there r 99 names of allah but tht in our religion only el islam
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yes good
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Does he want human kind to respect each other?
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great
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yes
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if u know our religion well
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
The God we know here wants the same things
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and we only who worship to allah only the muslims
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
So that is why I think all the world believes in the same God
koko diz:
what about GOD you know luiza
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u will know wat's the rules to respect each other
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Not to kill
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Not to steal
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yeaaa
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tht right
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To help when we can
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To love
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To pray
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To think of others and not only of yourself
koko diz:
yea all these is principles in our islam
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
That is the principle of Kardecism/Espiritismo
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
in Brasil
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
We want peace
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and respect
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And i think you want that too, right?
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ok luiza tell me about his structure , can u ?
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yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
what do you mean by structure?
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how is he ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
God/Allah?
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no
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urs
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
the religion?
koko diz:
planing what it mean what it wan from u
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
God is not a man, not a spirit
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nooo tell me how is ur god ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He is creation
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hmmmmmmm
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He is nature, and everything that lives on earh
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ok wanna know his creation
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
*earth
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hmmmmmm
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on earth ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
on the planet
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how u worship him ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
In brasil there is Catholicism...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But I don't have a religion, as I told u
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
We also have protestantism
koko diz:
do u know catholic and arthothoic
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes, I know many people who are catholic
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ok but what you do when you need something ? , u must ask ur needs from your god because he is the only one that can answer you.
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i mean when you are in triouble
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troule*
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trouble
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Oh, yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think even those who don't believe in God talk to him sometimes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
When we close our eyes and wish for something
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think we are talking to god
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ok , but what will make him answer you and you are not believing in him
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Maybe he will answer, maybe he won't.
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Even if you believe in him, maybe he won't do what you ask
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He will do what he thinks is best
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And we must always trust His decision
koko diz:
luiza r u think once to believe of any of these religions which u saw in brazil?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I never had a religion
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ok tell me if he refuse ur pray will he postone it to u ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I never believed in something completely
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or replace it to u ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
dont understand
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
postone?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
replace?:
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delay
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postpone
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
oh..
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think God wants us to be happy, but I believe it is not him who chooses that
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think we choose.. By our actions
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who ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
As I said.. i believe in karma
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If we act wrong, we will pay for that
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by our action ? ok wat's his job now ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
It will come back to us
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
His job is to be that voice inside us who shows the right way
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and WE choose
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
to listen or not
koko diz:
luiza u say that I think we choose.. By our actions
r u make all that u choose or u have troubles to do that sometimes
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wait me plz
koko diz:
ok
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
ok
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back
koko diz:
goahead
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r u there luiza ?
koko diz:
i want luiza to answe my question

mostafaa está na conversa.

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes
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luiza
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ma brother mostafa
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Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
hi, mostafa
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
!
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Mostafaa
mostafaa diz:
hi Luiza
koko diz:
hi mostapha
mostafaa diz:
hi koko
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Hi!
mostafaa diz:
nice to meet u all
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
You too
Rahem-koko diz:
thx
Rahem-koko diz:
mostapha we talked about ISLAM & PROPHET MOHAMED
Rahem-koko diz:
nice back LUIZA
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Hii
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What was that question you had for me?
Alaa diz:
koko
Rahem-koko diz:
luiza u say that I think we choose.. By our actions
r u make all that u choose or u have troubles to do that sometimes

Rahem-koko diz:
YEA
Rahem-koko diz:
am here
Alaa diz:
ok
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If I have trouble to do the right thing all the time?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Is that the question?
Rahem-koko diz:
luiza u say that I think we choose.. By our actions
r u make all that u choose or u have troubles to do that sometimes

Rahem-koko diz:
if u cant make which u choose
Rahem-koko diz:
what u make?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't understand the question very well
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What do i do
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If I can't do what I chose?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Give me an example
Rahem-koko diz:
am asked what do u do if u can't what u choose to de
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What I do..
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If there is no alternative there is no choice...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
So you do what seems to be right
Rahem-koko diz:
u close ur eyes and praying then thre's no reply
Rahem-koko diz:
yea
Rahem-koko diz:
ok dear
Rahem-koko diz:
is anyone there
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
There is no reply..
Alaa diz:
luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But I don't think God will answer to our prayers
Alaa diz:
if ur parents not good
mostafaa diz:
he will answer
Alaa diz:
how will u treat them ?
mostafaa diz:
but in not the way u think
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Yes.. that is what I think
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He doesn't answer in a human way
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
It is that feeling we have... When we know what to do...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Or sometimes we know what to do but dont have strenght to do so
Rahem-koko diz:
yea right
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think God sends people to help us
mostafaa diz:
yes
mostafaa diz:
thats right
mostafaa diz:
and send with these people something very improtant
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think the concept of God is basically the same. But You call him Allah, and we say God(Deus, in portuguese)
Rahem-koko diz:
no
Alaa diz:
is the wine is legal or taboo in ur religion ?
Rahem-koko diz:
there is no god except ALLAH
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
wine
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Wine is legal in our Country
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Also in our religion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But the society doesent see drinking as a good thing
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Especially Kadercism
mostafaa diz:
but wine brings evils
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Kardecism defends that too
Alaa diz:
wat Kardecism
Alaa diz:
?
mostafaa diz:
if it forbiden from the god no one will drink it
mostafaa diz:
because some people fears only from the human laws about wine
mostafaa diz:
so when they are alone they drink it
Alaa diz:
u told me tht the god and ur religion say tht it's not forbiden , right ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't have a religion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I believe in god
Alaa diz:
ur god
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And in some "rules"
Alaa diz:
but god without religion ?u know wat's the rules which u believe in it ?
Alaa diz:
tht call religion luiza , but u name it rules
Alaa diz:
u got it or not ?
Rahem-koko diz:
u mean that her believe in many things not areligion i want what we call that
Alaa diz:
these things which she believe in it we call it religion
Alaa diz:
be with me luiza
Alaa diz:
may be u take a walk now
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Alaa diz:
have a good time baby
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Noo
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Listen:
Alaa diz:
wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I dont have a religion
Alaa diz:
ok ok
Alaa diz:
i got it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Dont go to temples or churches
Alaa diz:
so i said tht
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But I believe in God
Alaa diz:
and ?
Alaa diz:
some rules
Alaa diz:
right ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and I think he wants people to respect each other
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To love, to pray
Alaa diz:
yea tht right ok
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To help each other
Alaa diz:
be with me
mostafaa diz:
she is with u bro
Alaa diz:
the god said to u to love respect ... etc
Alaa diz:
right ?
Rahem-koko diz:
yea
Rahem-koko diz:
luiza whre r u ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
that is right
Alaa diz:
ok wat do u call these ?
Alaa diz:
rules , right ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
these what?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
the rules?
Alaa diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't know...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
How do you call it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Alaa diz:
to love , to respect
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
mandamentos
Alaa diz:
tht religion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Alaa diz:
the rules which we follow it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
There are many religions which believe God wants that
Alaa diz:
tht the religion luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Do you believe in reencanation?
Alaa diz:
wat
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
*reencarnation?
Alaa diz:
?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
When you die.. what happens?
Alaa diz:
tell me u
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
WITH YOUR SOUL
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
your spirit
Alaa diz:
yes i know
Alaa diz:
tell me u wat do u now about it ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
In catholicism they believe that if you are good you go to heaven
Alaa diz:
nooo
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
if you are bad you go to hell
Alaa diz:
i want wat do u believe
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
In kardecism
Alaa diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
They believe that your spirit gets closer to god
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And if you are not ready to be there you come back to life
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
in another body
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To learn
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
More
Alaa diz:
learn more about wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
For your spirit to evolve
Alaa diz:
to do good things and return again ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Learn about life, bEcause only with wisdom you can be a good person and
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Sometimes
Alaa diz:
ok
Alaa diz:
tht mean tht if u die now
Alaa diz:
and urn't good
Alaa diz:
will turn back to life ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
kind of
mostafaa diz:
her spirit will go to another body and born again with it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
You will
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Your spirit will come back to earth
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
YES!!!
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
That's it
Alaa diz:
tell me when and who turn back to life again ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
BECAuse they believe
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
that this world
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
is a place to learn
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
how to be a better person
Alaa diz:
and then ?
mostafaa diz:
r u believe in this too?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And when you learn you get closer to God
Alaa diz:
ok then ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't know
Alaa diz:
dun know wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I believe that we pay for what we do wrong
Alaa diz:
at the first i told u to tell me wat do u believe
Alaa diz:
not other
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't know if I believe that we can come back for a new life, without
Alaa diz:
ok
Alaa diz:
y the god creat us ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
remembering
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
YES
Alaa diz:
in ur opinion ? as u said
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
god created us
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and this world
Alaa diz:
to learn in this life
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and everything in it
Alaa diz:
why ?
Alaa diz:
why ?
Alaa diz:
to learn in this world ?
Alaa diz:

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes[
Rahem-koko diz:
as she said to become closer to GOD
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
to learn
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
we are here to live and do our best
Alaa diz:
live and do the best ? for ex ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
It is a challenge to think of others
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
not only in yourself
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Be a good person... as God made us capable of
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Do you believe in the Devil?
mostafaa diz:
yeah
Alaa diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yeah??
Alaa diz:
who creat him ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
How is he?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
catholicism thinks that the Devil was an angel
mostafaa diz:
no
Rahem-koko diz:

mostafaa diz:
in Islam he was not
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and he wanted to be greater than God
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
So, he turned against him
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't believe that
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I..
mostafaa diz:
let me tell u the story of the devil in Islam
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
tell me
mostafaa diz:
and forgave my bad english...
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