quinta-feira, 19 de março de 2009

Aspecto Cultural

Essa postagem é pra quem fala inglês... Desculpem, mas é a Globalização. Aí vai uma conversa por msn. Uma brasileira e um Árabe, falando de Religião. Divirtam-se!
koko diz:
what;s your religion luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
what is yours?
koko diz:
muslim
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't have exactly a religion, but I believe in God, and I think I believe in Karma
koko diz:
aha
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
How is this religion?
koko diz:
believe in Karma

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What do you believe?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And...
koko diz:
and the proht mohamed
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What did he say?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
propeht mohamed
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
*prophet
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
koko, u there?
koko diz:
wait just seconds
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
ok
koko diz:
luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Yes..
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
We were talking about religion
koko diz:
i give u a link taking about our prophet mohamed
koko diz:
http://mohammad.islamway.com/?lang=eng
koko diz:
that is
koko diz:
in english
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
okay.. I'll read
koko diz:
read then say to me what's opinion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
You call God allah?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think the same God has many names
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
what do u think?
koko diz:
yea W believe with taw7eed
koko diz:
allah is the only GOD
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What do you think Allah wants from the human kind?
koko diz:
PRAYING
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and what else?
koko diz:
ALLAH created all human to praying and beleive that is la elah ela ALLAH AND MOHAMED RASOUL allah
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I dont understand elah ela allah rasoul?
koko diz:
rasoul= prophet

go away , i have already enough friends está na conversa.

koko diz:
elaa with us
koko diz:
u r welcome
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
thx
go away , i have already enough friends diz:

koko diz:
luiza asked about prpophet mohamed
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok luiza
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
but i can't speak untill u be with us
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
if ur busy
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
postpone tht to another time
koko diz:
i send that link to luiza
koko diz:
http://mohammad.islamway.com/?lang=eng
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
coz i wanna ur attention
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I want to understand
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ur available now ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
want to know wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I want to know what Allah expects from me
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and you
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and all people
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok luiza there is one god in all over the worl
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
there is no one else
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think that too
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think people believe in the same God, but they call Him by different names
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
noooooooo
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
allah only the god
koko diz:
no ALLAH
koko diz:
NOT ANOTHER NAME
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Is Allah Good?
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
there r 99 names of allah but tht in our religion only el islam
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
yes good
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Does he want human kind to respect each other?
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
great
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
yes
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
if u know our religion well
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
The God we know here wants the same things
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
and we only who worship to allah only the muslims
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
So that is why I think all the world believes in the same God
koko diz:
what about GOD you know luiza
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
u will know wat's the rules to respect each other
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Not to kill
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Not to steal
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
yeaaa
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
tht right
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To help when we can
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To love
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To pray
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To think of others and not only of yourself
koko diz:
yea all these is principles in our islam
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
That is the principle of Kardecism/Espiritismo
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
in Brasil
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
We want peace
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and respect
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And i think you want that too, right?
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok luiza tell me about his structure , can u ?
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
what do you mean by structure?
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
how is he ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
God/Allah?
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
no
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
urs
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
the religion?
koko diz:
planing what it mean what it wan from u
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
God is not a man, not a spirit
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
nooo tell me how is ur god ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He is creation
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
hmmmmmmm
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He is nature, and everything that lives on earh
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok wanna know his creation
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
*earth
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
hmmmmmm
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
on earth ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
on the planet
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
how u worship him ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
In brasil there is Catholicism...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But I don't have a religion, as I told u
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
We also have protestantism
koko diz:
do u know catholic and arthothoic
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes, I know many people who are catholic
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok but what you do when you need something ? , u must ask ur needs from your god because he is the only one that can answer you.
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
i mean when you are in triouble
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
troule*
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
trouble
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Oh, yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think even those who don't believe in God talk to him sometimes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
When we close our eyes and wish for something
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think we are talking to god
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok , but what will make him answer you and you are not believing in him
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Maybe he will answer, maybe he won't.
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Even if you believe in him, maybe he won't do what you ask
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He will do what he thinks is best
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And we must always trust His decision
koko diz:
luiza r u think once to believe of any of these religions which u saw in brazil?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I never had a religion
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ok tell me if he refuse ur pray will he postone it to u ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I never believed in something completely
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
or replace it to u ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
dont understand
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
postone?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
replace?:
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
delay
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
postpone
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
oh..
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think God wants us to be happy, but I believe it is not him who chooses that
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think we choose.. By our actions
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
who ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
As I said.. i believe in karma
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If we act wrong, we will pay for that
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
by our action ? ok wat's his job now ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
It will come back to us
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
His job is to be that voice inside us who shows the right way
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and WE choose
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
to listen or not
koko diz:
luiza u say that I think we choose.. By our actions
r u make all that u choose or u have troubles to do that sometimes
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
wait me plz
koko diz:
ok
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
ok
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
back
koko diz:
goahead
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
r u there luiza ?
koko diz:
i want luiza to answe my question

mostafaa está na conversa.

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
luiza
go away , i have already enough friends diz:
ma brother mostafa
go away , i have already enough friends diz:

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
hi, mostafa
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
!
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Mostafaa
mostafaa diz:
hi Luiza
koko diz:
hi mostapha
mostafaa diz:
hi koko
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Hi!
mostafaa diz:
nice to meet u all
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
You too
Rahem-koko diz:
thx
Rahem-koko diz:
mostapha we talked about ISLAM & PROPHET MOHAMED
Rahem-koko diz:
nice back LUIZA
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Hii
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What was that question you had for me?
Alaa diz:
koko
Rahem-koko diz:
luiza u say that I think we choose.. By our actions
r u make all that u choose or u have troubles to do that sometimes

Rahem-koko diz:
YEA
Rahem-koko diz:
am here
Alaa diz:
ok
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If I have trouble to do the right thing all the time?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Is that the question?
Rahem-koko diz:
luiza u say that I think we choose.. By our actions
r u make all that u choose or u have troubles to do that sometimes

Rahem-koko diz:
if u cant make which u choose
Rahem-koko diz:
what u make?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't understand the question very well
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What do i do
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If I can't do what I chose?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Give me an example
Rahem-koko diz:
am asked what do u do if u can't what u choose to de
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
What I do..
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
If there is no alternative there is no choice...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
So you do what seems to be right
Rahem-koko diz:
u close ur eyes and praying then thre's no reply
Rahem-koko diz:
yea
Rahem-koko diz:
ok dear
Rahem-koko diz:
is anyone there
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
There is no reply..
Alaa diz:
luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But I don't think God will answer to our prayers
Alaa diz:
if ur parents not good
mostafaa diz:
he will answer
Alaa diz:
how will u treat them ?
mostafaa diz:
but in not the way u think
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Yes.. that is what I think
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
He doesn't answer in a human way
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
It is that feeling we have... When we know what to do...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Or sometimes we know what to do but dont have strenght to do so
Rahem-koko diz:
yea right
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think God sends people to help us
mostafaa diz:
yes
mostafaa diz:
thats right
mostafaa diz:
and send with these people something very improtant
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I think the concept of God is basically the same. But You call him Allah, and we say God(Deus, in portuguese)
Rahem-koko diz:
no
Alaa diz:
is the wine is legal or taboo in ur religion ?
Rahem-koko diz:
there is no god except ALLAH
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
wine
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Wine is legal in our Country
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Also in our religion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But the society doesent see drinking as a good thing
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Especially Kadercism
mostafaa diz:
but wine brings evils
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Kardecism defends that too
Alaa diz:
wat Kardecism
Alaa diz:
?
mostafaa diz:
if it forbiden from the god no one will drink it
mostafaa diz:
because some people fears only from the human laws about wine
mostafaa diz:
so when they are alone they drink it
Alaa diz:
u told me tht the god and ur religion say tht it's not forbiden , right ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't have a religion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I believe in god
Alaa diz:
ur god
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And in some "rules"
Alaa diz:
but god without religion ?u know wat's the rules which u believe in it ?
Alaa diz:
tht call religion luiza , but u name it rules
Alaa diz:
u got it or not ?
Rahem-koko diz:
u mean that her believe in many things not areligion i want what we call that
Alaa diz:
these things which she believe in it we call it religion
Alaa diz:
be with me luiza
Alaa diz:
may be u take a walk now
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Alaa diz:
have a good time baby
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Noo
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Listen:
Alaa diz:
wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I dont have a religion
Alaa diz:
ok ok
Alaa diz:
i got it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Dont go to temples or churches
Alaa diz:
so i said tht
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
But I believe in God
Alaa diz:
and ?
Alaa diz:
some rules
Alaa diz:
right ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and I think he wants people to respect each other
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To love, to pray
Alaa diz:
yea tht right ok
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To help each other
Alaa diz:
be with me
mostafaa diz:
she is with u bro
Alaa diz:
the god said to u to love respect ... etc
Alaa diz:
right ?
Rahem-koko diz:
yea
Rahem-koko diz:
luiza whre r u ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
that is right
Alaa diz:
ok wat do u call these ?
Alaa diz:
rules , right ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
these what?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
the rules?
Alaa diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't know...
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
How do you call it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Alaa diz:
to love , to respect
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
mandamentos
Alaa diz:
tht religion
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
?
Alaa diz:
the rules which we follow it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
There are many religions which believe God wants that
Alaa diz:
tht the religion luiza
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Do you believe in reencanation?
Alaa diz:
wat
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
*reencarnation?
Alaa diz:
?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
When you die.. what happens?
Alaa diz:
tell me u
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
WITH YOUR SOUL
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
your spirit
Alaa diz:
yes i know
Alaa diz:
tell me u wat do u now about it ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
In catholicism they believe that if you are good you go to heaven
Alaa diz:
nooo
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
if you are bad you go to hell
Alaa diz:
i want wat do u believe
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
In kardecism
Alaa diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
They believe that your spirit gets closer to god
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And if you are not ready to be there you come back to life
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
in another body
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
To learn
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
More
Alaa diz:
learn more about wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
For your spirit to evolve
Alaa diz:
to do good things and return again ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Learn about life, bEcause only with wisdom you can be a good person and
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Sometimes
Alaa diz:
ok
Alaa diz:
tht mean tht if u die now
Alaa diz:
and urn't good
Alaa diz:
will turn back to life ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
kind of
mostafaa diz:
her spirit will go to another body and born again with it
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
You will
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Your spirit will come back to earth
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
YES!!!
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
That's it
Alaa diz:
tell me when and who turn back to life again ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
BECAuse they believe
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
that this world
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
is a place to learn
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
how to be a better person
Alaa diz:
and then ?
mostafaa diz:
r u believe in this too?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
And when you learn you get closer to God
Alaa diz:
ok then ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't know
Alaa diz:
dun know wat ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I believe that we pay for what we do wrong
Alaa diz:
at the first i told u to tell me wat do u believe
Alaa diz:
not other
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't know if I believe that we can come back for a new life, without
Alaa diz:
ok
Alaa diz:
y the god creat us ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
remembering
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
YES
Alaa diz:
in ur opinion ? as u said
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
god created us
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and this world
Alaa diz:
to learn in this life
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and everything in it
Alaa diz:
why ?
Alaa diz:
why ?
Alaa diz:
to learn in this world ?
Alaa diz:

Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yes[
Rahem-koko diz:
as she said to become closer to GOD
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
to learn
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
we are here to live and do our best
Alaa diz:
live and do the best ? for ex ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
It is a challenge to think of others
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
not only in yourself
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Be a good person... as God made us capable of
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
Do you believe in the Devil?
mostafaa diz:
yeah
Alaa diz:
yes
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
yeah??
Alaa diz:
who creat him ?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
How is he?
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
catholicism thinks that the Devil was an angel
mostafaa diz:
no
Rahem-koko diz:

mostafaa diz:
in Islam he was not
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
and he wanted to be greater than God
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
So, he turned against him
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I don't believe that
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
I..
mostafaa diz:
let me tell u the story of the devil in Islam
Luiza Nerd Wannabe diz:
tell me
mostafaa diz:
and forgave my bad english...

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4 comentários:

a_rosa disse...

parabéns pela paciência amiga! rsrsrs
Eles são super chatos cara!

Metamorfo disse...

auhuhauhuauhauauh eu achei suuuper interessante!! Eles são teimosos!

ઇ‍ઉ.Kєℓℓy disse...

Veery interesting indeed!
hahaha
que papo hein, amiga! te parabenizo pela paciencia tbm...
se fosse eu... estaria brigando já.... rsrs
bjooos!

Anônimo disse...

Luuuuuuu...
Achei seu blog! :D

Nossa! Adorei a conversa!
Mas pq eles queriam TANTO q vc dissesse q tem uma religião? Q perturbação! rsrs
A propósito, fiquei curiosa p/ saber quem é o diabo p/ o islamismo... Me conta dps?

Beijoooooooos